Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Immaculate Heart of Mary Parish podcast with Father Greg and JD Each week, Father Greg and I connect on a variety of topics related to our faith and our parish in Winona, Ontario. We are here to help spread the good news and further unite our parish community. This is episode number 26.
We are still in ordinary time.
Celebrate Saint Benedict. Benedict.
I think there's just one N in Benedict.
And we'll go back to the Bible and talk about a bunch of other stuff today. And we have a special guest. Foreshadowing, Foreshadowing, Foreshadowing. Remember, you can find us on the Spotify, the Apple podcast, and the YouTube every week. So please like or subscribe and we'll find your inbox every week.
All right, Father, let's see. What can we talk about this week? Oh, I want to ask you about a slight difference in.
From your homily to the reading.
So in the reading, Jesus set out 70 disciples, and you kept talking about 72. So who are these extra two guys?
[00:01:07] Speaker B: Right. I will answer that, but is that a joke? Or is that, like. Because you always start with a joke. Is this replacing the joke? Or am I just getting ready for the joke after this? Well, okay, we won't talk about it. Okay, I'll just answer the question.
[00:01:18] Speaker A: I got another one for you after I got another. I have a. I have several questions, in fact.
[00:01:22] Speaker B: Wow. Exciting. Okay, so the answer why did I say 72, when in our lectionary in Canada it said 70?
So the reason is that actually there's a difference in manuscripts, early manuscripts, about whether Jesus sent out 72 or 70. Some Bibles say 72, some say 70.
The reason I. And there's. And there's disagreement, by the way, amongst biblical scholars. There's a bit of freedom there.
So I personally lean in the direction of 72, because in the Old Testament, Moses sent out 72, and Jesus as the new Moses is fulfilling and elevating what Moses did. And he many times does what Moses did. Like, you know, you heard it said that I. But I say to you, right, when Moses was on the mountain receiving the commandments of God, now Jesus with the Sermon on the Mount, is taking that to the next level.
And so it makes sense from a biblical typology perspective to believe that Jesus would have had 72 mirroring the same number that Moses had.
[00:02:24] Speaker A: Beautiful love that love. 72. So I'll keep 72 in mind now.
[00:02:28] Speaker B: Yeah, that's why you were like, why is he saying 72? It's 70. But, like, I said there's legitimate diversity on that, which is a very interesting phenomenon, to be honest.
[00:02:35] Speaker A: Just shows that I hang on every word that comes out of you during the homily.
[00:02:39] Speaker B: I am impressed.
[00:02:40] Speaker A: Excellent.
I also want to draw attention to our weekly shorts that you may or may not have seen out there, sort of featuring different aspects of the.
Of the parish and of the Mass. So last week, we showed up the games room, which has a new feature today, Table tennis table.
[00:02:58] Speaker B: I was thinking that we could surprise them with a separate video.
[00:03:01] Speaker A: Okay, so delete that. Ignore that. You just heard that. Maybe we'll show that as a surprise a little bit later on.
[00:03:06] Speaker B: We talked about this.
[00:03:10] Speaker A: I do have a quick question before we begin, though.
Is it true that kneeling will keep you in good standing?
[00:03:18] Speaker B: It can not always, but I like.
[00:03:20] Speaker A: Your joke, but it helps, but.
[00:03:22] Speaker B: It can help, but depends on what kind of good standing and whether kneeling affects that type of standing.
[00:03:27] Speaker A: Kind of good kneeling.
[00:03:28] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. I'm just having fun. Your joke is a good one.
[00:03:31] Speaker A: Oh, goodness. That's a Father Greg quality joke right there. I actually, I don't think it is up to a Father Greg quality joke.
[00:03:36] Speaker B: But I might throw that out there. Okay.
[00:03:38] Speaker A: All right. Well, use it at your. At your will, but please start us off with a prayer.
[00:03:43] Speaker B: Will do. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. God, we thank you for your presence with us right now and all those who listen to this podcast or watch it online. We just ask that you pour out your Holy Spirit upon us, help us to encounter you personally during this time. Your love for us, your care, your compassion, your desire to bless and strengthen, to heal, to comfort each one of us and anoint us by your Holy Spirit so that this podcast and all we do is always led by you. We ask Mary, St. Joseph, St. Michael, all the saints to be with us, and we pray this trusting in your love. In the name of Jesus, who is Lord forever and ever. Amen. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
[00:04:17] Speaker A: Amen. Well, thank you for that.
Well, let's reveal our saint of the week. Each week, we feature a saint and share some facts about their life as we strive to live out our mission. As Catholics, we can always look to our saints for inspiration.
This week we will feature St. Benedict, known as St. Benedict of Nursia, who was a Christian monk regarded as the father of Western monasticism.
[00:04:40] Speaker B: What's monasticism?
[00:04:42] Speaker A: I was waiting for that. Throw out a big word and I thought, oh, he's gonna. He's gonna ask me about the big word. It's a religious way of. Characterized by renouncing worldly pursuits to dedicate oneself fully to spiritual activities.
[00:04:55] Speaker B: Beautiful.
[00:04:56] Speaker A: Commonly involving living in seclusion under religious vows and adhering to specific rules of that particular order.
[00:05:04] Speaker B: Right. And sometimes, like, community life, too. Probably too. That's cool.
[00:05:08] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:05:09] Speaker B: I think there's different forms of monasticism.
[00:05:11] Speaker A: Okay. And he introduced Western, right? Not northern, Southern or West.
[00:05:15] Speaker B: Eastern. Yeah, that's true.
[00:05:19] Speaker A: Just confirming that there are different versions.
Maybe the Northeastern, Southern, Western could be another.
[00:05:26] Speaker B: I think this is. This is just above my pay grade. I don't think I'm ready for these types of questions.
[00:05:31] Speaker A: Okay, well, let's see. St. Benedict formed, this may be surprising, the Benedictine order and authored The Rule of St. Benedict, a practical guide for communal monastic living. Focused on prayer, work, obedience, and humility.
And his rule bound spiritual devotion with daily labor, shaping the structure of monastic life across Europe.
Benedict's influence profoundly impacted Christian spirituality, education, and religious communities throughout the Middle Ages and beyond.
So one of the guiding phrases, ora et labora, pray and work. And that summarizes Benedictine life very well.
[00:06:07] Speaker B: That's right. Ora et labora.
In Latin, every consonant is said. There's no silent consonants, really? Except for h, if it's at the start. No, even that you say, I think homage.
Yeah.
[00:06:19] Speaker A: Oh, boy.
[00:06:19] Speaker B: It's not like French where it's like. Yeah, yeah. It's not like French where you like. It's silent. It's side note. Sorry, I don't mean to sound too finicky. I just wanted to share that.
[00:06:27] Speaker A: Excellent.
[00:06:28] Speaker B: The ora lamore is a beautiful thing. Pray and work the city that we want to be praying and working throughout the day. And this is a path to holiness.
[00:06:34] Speaker A: This lesson in Latin brought to you by Father Greg.
We have a great quote from St. Benedict.
The first degree of humility is prompt obedience. And that's from the Rule of St. Benedict. And another. I'm going to throw this one into. The Lord waits for us to daily translate his holy teachings into action.
And Jesus, I trust in you. I think that was in there, too.
[00:06:58] Speaker B: I'm not sure. He was way ahead of his time saying that. I'm really impressed.
[00:07:02] Speaker A: Oh, goodness. Well, it's time for Ask Father Greg. Each week we respond to a question submitted to a listener or one that I make up myself. This week, I'm going back to Mass, where I hang on every word and watch every action. And this week, I noticed you had A bonus thing hanging from your ciborium.
[00:07:20] Speaker B: Yeah, we're all about the bonus things.
[00:07:22] Speaker A: And I never noticed that before.
[00:07:25] Speaker B: What can you tell the folks what you mean by bonus thing?
[00:07:28] Speaker A: There was a beautiful tiny golden thing receptacle clipped onto your suborium, which is much larger than this.
[00:07:38] Speaker B: Right.
[00:07:39] Speaker A: And it was clipped on. I know. We only observed it from the side when you went to present communion to the choir.
And I'd never noticed that bonus add on before.
[00:07:49] Speaker B: Very impressive. Great observation. Your eyes are working excellently.
So for anyone who might not happen to know, a ciborium is a thing that holds the hosts, it's not the same as a chalice. So sometimes people. So they'll call a ciborium a chalice, but they're actually technically different. The chalice is always for what looks like, well, and is the precious blood of Jesus. And the saboria are for hosts. Saboria is the plural form of saborium.
[00:08:13] Speaker A: So we should have like a show and tell thing here probably.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Sorry, I don't mean to sound too geeky with all this stuff, but I figured you might be curious, so.
Totally curious. So. So the little clip on thing that was clipped on to the edge of my saboria was a little thing for low gluten hosts. So some people, they have celiac disease or whatever reason, they can't have gluten.
And so we have special hosts for them. They're called low gluten hosts. Now you might say, father, if they can't have gluten, why do you have low gluten? Should it be gluten free?
Well, we actually have no such thing as gluten free host in the Catholic church. And it would be invalid because we'd say that there needs to be at least some small, extremely small token amount of gluten for this to truly be bread. That's the mind of the church. So we have to have some exceedingly small amount of gluten, so we call it low gluten.
And so those hosts are specifically for persons with celiac disease or any other reason they can't have gluten. And so they let us know beforehand. And then those special hosts, we have them here at the church, we know to put those in the little clip on thing so that they get consecrated at mass too, just like all the other hosts. And then when I'm down giving holy communion, the person who needs that host comes to me. I already know who they are because I've already talked to them. So when they come instead of Taking from the regular suborium that I'm holding.
I actually do this a little bit to dislodge any pieces of the Eucharist, minimizing cross contamination. Should that be a factor in their bodily response to the Eucharist?
I take the low gluten host and I give them that host instead. But this is convenient because I don't have to walk back up to the altar, which could just throw off things or maybe draws more attention than that person wants to themselves during the communion line. So it's just a little kind of discreet way. But you saw it. We couldn't sneak it past you.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: But it was great because you start to wonder, why are they getting a different one? What's happening there?
[00:10:12] Speaker B: They paid the extra. That's a joke. That's a joke. They don't pay anything for it.
[00:10:16] Speaker A: I'm looking forward to the fall when you have the pumpkin spice ones.
[00:10:19] Speaker B: That's right. For donors of $200 and more. We can give you the pumpkin spice. No, that's not true. Sorry.
[00:10:24] Speaker A: You'll have a ring of things around your subordinate.
[00:10:27] Speaker B: You're going to have. You have to tap your Eucharist card, and then based on your prepay, it'll automatically swivel around and yours will be there and I just have to give it to you. It's really impressive what they're doing with technology.
[00:10:37] Speaker A: That's going to be awesome.
[00:10:38] Speaker B: That's never going to happen.
[00:10:41] Speaker A: Oh, gosh. Well, that's a fascinating explanation. And that. Yeah, that's. That's great, because I.
I had wondered.
[00:10:47] Speaker B: About that right after you're like, I want one of the special. What's heck? I thought I was special, too.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: Oh, gosh.
[00:10:52] Speaker B: I'm just getting the regular Jesus.
I'm just getting Jesus, the risen Jesus. But, like, could I have, like, special.
[00:10:57] Speaker A: Luten Jesus or special bonus souped up Jesus?
[00:11:02] Speaker B: That's right. That's right. Pumpkin spice Jesus. No, that doesn't exist. Sorry.
[00:11:07] Speaker A: Ah, so those memes aren't true. Okay, all right.
[00:11:09] Speaker B: Don't trust all that memes.
[00:11:12] Speaker A: Oh, golly. Should we talk about a resource for this week?
And so for this, I think I'm going to circle back to the Bible. We talked about the Bible in earlier episodes, and this comes up because I'm at a point in the Bible in the Year podcast where I'm struggling badly just to try to understand and keep up with names and places in the Old Testament that I'm struggling with content.
And then you actually alluded to that in your homily as well. Talking about just. If you're struggling with a dry period, pick up your Bible. And you actually also recommended starting with Matthew, which is coincidentally Father Mike Schmidt's favorite gospel, as well as Jeff Cavins.
So as a perfect way of getting dislodged, if you're stuck in your Bible reading, go back to the gospels. And actually, they. It's also recommended by Bishop Barron as a great place to start if you want to really concentrate on the Bible and begin that learning process. Where to learn. And he recommends the.
The Gospel of Matthew as well. So gonna show off the word on fire Bible or gospels anyway, which have not only the beautiful words, but descriptions. Some artwork in there as well.
[00:12:33] Speaker B: Beautiful. Actually. Can we open it so they can see it? What is it like? You're just like. It's really great artwork.
[00:12:39] Speaker A: Okay, so there is a.
Just one I saw today.
Oh, there we go. So this is the Adoration of the Magi.
[00:12:47] Speaker B: Whoa. Who's it painted by? Does it say it's okay if we don't.
[00:12:56] Speaker A: I don't think they do.
[00:12:59] Speaker B: Oh, by Giotto followers. Follower of Giotto.
[00:13:02] Speaker A: That's right.
Okay.
1343.
[00:13:06] Speaker B: That's great. We saw some Giottos in Italy. That's cool. Okay, so there's a sample of the beautiful art inside the beautiful Bible, the Word on Fire Bible, where you can read the Word of God.
[00:13:15] Speaker A: Sampling of the beautiful writing of Bishop Baron there too.
[00:13:17] Speaker B: Whoa.
[00:13:18] Speaker A: So there we go.
[00:13:19] Speaker B: Beautiful.
[00:13:22] Speaker A: Okay. Well, on the church calendar, we are fully into ordinary time, and it seems like a quiet time, but you remind us that growth is continuous and ongoing, which is really symbolized by the beautiful green that's in our parish.
And looking through the calendar this week, I noticed a lot of the days were called ferial.
So that's another new word. We had saborium, we had monasticism, and now this word feral.
[00:13:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:49] Speaker A: What's that all about?
[00:13:51] Speaker B: Great question. The word feral primarily means relating to a weekday that's not a feast day in the church.
[00:13:57] Speaker A: So weekday, not a feast day.
[00:13:59] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. It's. So there's like.
If there's no saint of that day, like, yesterday was a feral. So there's no church. There's no saint in the church's calendar that's universally celebrated that day. So it's called a ferial day.
Its etymology traces back.
It's obviously Latin. It meant holiday or feast day. But for some reason, in the context of the Catholic Church's calendar, it's come to signify a weekday without a feast of a Saint celebrated that day. Okay, so Fereal days basically just means non feast day. Although technically, like every day, there is a saint celebrated. It just means that in the current calendar, liturgical calendar of the church, the. There's no saint that the whole church is celebrating that day that's in the missal to celebrate.
[00:14:46] Speaker A: And is it locally, by region, by country?
[00:14:50] Speaker B: There can be, yeah. There's regional calendars that are like. There's a universal calendar for saints all throughout the year for the whole church. But the bishops of a country called the Conference of Bishops, National Conference of Bishops, they have permission from Rome to adjust that calendar. They can ask, they can make suggestions, and they can say, well, because our country celebrates this on this day, we would like to move this saint to blank day in our country.
And then they can send that request to Rome, and Rome can give them what's called the recognizio.
And it's like an approval for that. Yeah, the green light, the thumbs up, or the unrecognizio. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah. And then. So if Rome approves, then that's like a sort of adjustment that's unique to that country. So we have some of those, like St. Andre Bessette for us, because he's a Canadian saint. Our day for St Andre Besset is not the same as in America, for example.
And there's various times where if people are using American resources all the time, they'll notice a difference between the saints we're celebrating there and here.
Yeah. Okay, so Pharaoh just means there's none for the whole church, but it doesn't mean you can't celebrate what's called a votive Mass. For certain saints, the priest has, on certain times of the year the capacity to celebrate a votive Mass, which he can do at his own choosing.
Which doesn't change the readings of the Mass normally, but just some of the prayers. Right.
[00:16:14] Speaker A: Okay. So I've heard you use the term votive Mass, so that answers that question.
[00:16:18] Speaker B: So many words.
[00:16:19] Speaker A: Oh, golly. And recognizing.
I noticed you pronounced all the letters just like in the Latin. As I learned earlier, this.
[00:16:27] Speaker B: You're amazing. So you are a bright.
[00:16:28] Speaker A: I'm trying to retain all this information.
[00:16:30] Speaker B: There's no wonder why. You are the founder of the pen club. You are a bright man.
[00:16:35] Speaker A: Hey, we don't talk about pen club.
Rule number one.
There is so much happening here at our parish, Father. Our parishioners can check out the bulletin to find out what's happening all the time. But for everyone else out there, what are some of the highlights of the coming weeks?
[00:16:50] Speaker B: Well, I'm really excited about our youth night this Friday with water balloons and barbecue. And I'm excited about our Young Adults night this Saturday where I get to share about my recent trip with you to Italy. And we're going to. We're going to try to get some special Italian bonus, like Italian food.
[00:17:06] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:17:08] Speaker B: Especially pizza, like authentic.
And we'll have games because we, as you said, we have great games in the. The hall.
So that's fun.
And I mean, I'm meeting lots of people all the time. That's always just exciting for me to get to make people's lives better and serve them as best I can. We've got our monthly Men's Recollection on Monday night.
And I mean, it's summer, so there's a certain number of groups that kind of just take a little break off.
[00:17:33] Speaker A: Okay, fair enough.
[00:17:35] Speaker B: But just to throw it out there, I'm planning to think about making Wednesday nights like a Bible study night or like a faith study night. Something that would really be for the whole parish. It would be really cool and grow in our faith. Yeah. So I've got several things that I'm thinking about that in the fall could start up.
[00:17:48] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:17:49] Speaker B: Along with children's literacy, the word for Sundays and stuff. So, yeah, stay tuned.
[00:17:54] Speaker A: And I'm also sure so many people willing to dive in to help support these ventures.
[00:18:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:00] Speaker A: Help lead them with it.
Okay.
And kind of ties into our next part here where, I mean, there are all these people doing great work at our parish all the time. Who would you like to recognize in our parish this week?
[00:18:13] Speaker B: This week I'd like to give a shout out to a really good young lady. Her name is Rain.
And so we, we are very blessed to have Rain working for us for the summer. And she's very. Hey.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: Oh, whoa.
[00:18:26] Speaker B: Hey.
[00:18:26] Speaker A: I recognize her.
[00:18:28] Speaker B: Hey, Rain. Good to see you. It's so good to have Rain here.
Yeah, we're really glad you're here. Maybe. Rain, is there anything you want to say about yourself or you want to share with anyone who watches or listens to us? Our parish podcast?
[00:18:39] Speaker C: Hi, everyone. My name is Rain.
I'm also here for the 4pm so maybe some of you know me from there, but I am very happy here at IHM this summer. I am working as a church worker. I think that's the title.
[00:18:51] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:18:52] Speaker C: So I've been helping Father Greg with various tasks, currently going through a bunch of stuff and cleaning the parish, making it better for you. Me, Father and the community.
[00:19:04] Speaker B: Amen.
[00:19:04] Speaker C: Hopefully.
[00:19:05] Speaker B: Yeah, that's great. And Rain's doing a great job. We're very, very blessed. And as you can see, she's a very friendly, cheerful young Catholic lady doing.
[00:19:13] Speaker A: Great work with a beautiful singing voice and a great ability to play the piano in the organ.
[00:19:17] Speaker B: Sings and plays really well at the 4pm Mass frequently as well. So that's great. We're so happy to have Rain. She gets our shout out this week and, yeah, we're really glad to have her with us.
[00:19:26] Speaker A: And we'll also see some of the benefits of her work at the table just outside.
[00:19:30] Speaker B: There's some new stuff on the free table. We found some cool things that you might be interested in. And as we're going through storage rooms and that, and just we could say doing inventory and making sure that we're putting everything we have to the best use. And if we don't have it, we'll share it with someone else who might want it.
[00:19:43] Speaker A: That's perfect. That's beautiful.
Excellent. Well, welcome, Reen. It's great to have you.
Well, that is just about all the time we have for today. Thank you for your insights, Father. Let's close with a prayer.
[00:19:55] Speaker B: Sure. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. God, we thank you for this pleasant and fruitful time. Continue to bless our listeners, those who follow us and watch this, and just may your Holy spirit be upon them. Bring them your peace, Lord, your comfort, your strength, your guidance, and help us at this parish to continue to be led by you so that all may come to know you, your love, your peace, and your blessing. We pray this in Jesus name, in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
[00:20:20] Speaker A: Thank you for that. And thank you for reminding us each week that when God ordains, he sustains.
[00:20:27] Speaker B: Amen. Sure does. I'll testify to that.
[00:20:31] Speaker A: Testify. All right. Well, thanks to our fans and friends and odds and ends for joining us again this week to the Immaculate Heart of Mary social media channels, the Apple podcasts, the Spotify and the YouTube. And if you like our show, subscribe and tell your friends. And if you don't like our show, tell your friends anyway and let them discern for themselves. Have a great week, everyone. We are Father, Greg and J.D. leaving you smarter, happier and more blessed than you were yesterday.
