Episode Transcript
[00:00:24] Speaker A: Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Immaculate Heart of Mary parish podcast with father Greg and J.D. winona's. Well, probably Winona's favorite Catholic podcast.
[00:00:33] Speaker B: How could it not be? How can it not be?
[00:00:35] Speaker A: Each week, Father Greg and I connect on a variety of topics related to our faith and our parish in Winona, Ontario. We are here to help spread the good news and further unite our parish community.
This is episode number 36. We are celebrating consecrated churches. St. John Paul II.
We're going to ask you about the Sunday missal. I have a bonus question. And we have a special guest today. Wow. And I also want to ask you about books that have been removed from some Bibles.
[00:01:02] Speaker B: Right on.
[00:01:03] Speaker A: Remember, everyone, you can find us on the Spotify, the Apple podcasts, and the YouTubes. So please like or subscribe and we will find your inbox every week with new content.
I do have a quick question before we begin this week.
When we say let us pray, is that like the church's version of a group chat?
[00:01:25] Speaker B: I'm not sure I get it.
[00:01:26] Speaker A: I'm sorry.
We're all contributing and it's all going to one place. Through you, I guess.
[00:01:32] Speaker B: Okay, fair enough. I mean, that is true. That is true. I guess. Group chat. I thought I would, like, be able to read their messages. I think it's just like a big simultaneous DM session. All DMing, direct messaging. God.
[00:01:43] Speaker A: Right. And you are just. You're channeling it.
[00:01:46] Speaker B: I'm like.
[00:01:47] Speaker A: And without being able to read it.
[00:01:48] Speaker B: Correct.
[00:01:50] Speaker A: All right.
Okay. That's not a Father Greg quality joke, so we'll skip over that one, but you better start us off with a prayer.
[00:01:57] Speaker B: It wasn't too bad, but I'll still pray. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. God, we thank you so much for your love for us. We just ask that you would anoint us with your holy spirit. Bless our listeners and help us to encounter you through this time. We give ourselves and this podcast our parish to the hearts of Jesus, Mary, Joseph may say, Michael, pray for us. And we ask all this in Jesus name. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
[00:02:22] Speaker A: The importance of careful listening. Because I thought I heard you ask for God to annoy us with the Holy Spirit.
[00:02:30] Speaker B: Well, the worst case, that would be a holy annoyance.
[00:02:33] Speaker A: But a holy annoyance only.
[00:02:34] Speaker B: An annoyance, really, to the devil.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: Yeah. And really it's. Whether it's an annoyance or an anointance, it still works in our favor because the Holy Spirit's prodding us, which isn't really annoying. Okay.
[00:02:48] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:02:49] Speaker A: Well, let's. How about we get to our saint of the week?
[00:02:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:02:52] Speaker A: Each week we feature a saint or several and share some facts about their lives. As we strive to live out our mission as Catholics, we can always look to our saints for inspiration. So this week, St. John Paul II. Born in Poland in 1920 and he was pope from 1978 to 2005, the first non Italian pope in over a 450 year period, and played a key role in ending communism in Eastern Europe. A strong advocate for human dignity, peace, and an interfaith dialogue, he traveled to more countries than any previous Pope, spreading the message of hope and faith. He inspired millions through his teachings on the sanctity of life and the importance of love and forgiveness.
He was canonized in 2014 and remains a powerful symbol of courage, compassion, and unwavering faith.
It's really cool to have saints who have been alive in our lifetimes.
[00:03:46] Speaker B: Amen.
[00:03:46] Speaker A: I think it's, you know, it always they seem so distant because they were.
[00:03:51] Speaker B: Sometimes it's a long time ago.
[00:03:54] Speaker A: So not the time of Jesus or ever or the mid the middle Ages. But now to have some that are. That are so close to us is really quite special. Spectacular.
St. John Paul II is the patron saint of World Youth Day and families.
And a couple of quick quotes.
The most beautiful and stirring adventure that can happen to you is the personal meeting with Jesus, who is the only one who gives real meaning to our lives.
[00:04:22] Speaker B: Amen.
[00:04:23] Speaker A: And the more ready you are to give yourself to God and to others, the more you discover the authentic meaning of life.
I think there's a lot of overlap between those two as well.
[00:04:32] Speaker B: Where did you find those?
[00:04:35] Speaker A: So I've got a source. It's the interweb.
[00:04:39] Speaker B: I won't pry too much.
[00:04:41] Speaker A: And what I did learn is that they have the Internet on computers now.
[00:04:45] Speaker B: No way.
[00:04:46] Speaker A: They do.
[00:04:46] Speaker B: The interwebs?
[00:04:47] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:04:47] Speaker B: On computers?
[00:04:48] Speaker A: Yes. They're all out there.
[00:04:50] Speaker B: Such technologies.
[00:04:51] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:04:52] Speaker B: Anyways, okay.
[00:04:54] Speaker A: And this one, I wasn't able to verify this one, but I'll add it anyway.
[00:04:58] Speaker B: Jesus, I trust I'm sure he said it.
[00:05:00] Speaker A: I think so.
[00:05:00] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. He was a big fan of SE Faustina's diary and he canonized her, so.
[00:05:06] Speaker A: Okay.
All right. So probably more confidence that he said it than any of the others that we've attributed to.
[00:05:12] Speaker B: He's up there.
[00:05:13] Speaker A: Okay, fair enough.
[00:05:13] Speaker B: Yeah, we probably have recordings of him saying it.
[00:05:17] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Well, I have to go for a little bit of a deep Dive into the archives to find that.
Well. Well, it's time for Ask Father Greg.
Each week we answer a question from our devoted listeners or from my own brain.
And our regular plea to please send questions for.
We love questions.
[00:05:36] Speaker B: Can't get enough?
[00:05:37] Speaker A: No.
So this week I want to ask about the Bible. And so we talk about the Bible, and we're always referencing the Catholic Bible, but there are other versions out there.
And isn't it a little bit misleading to have different books called the Bible?
[00:05:51] Speaker B: Hmm, I suppose so, yeah. Do you want me to elaborate?
If you could, sure.
Well, basically, what is in the Bible, the canon of Scripture was already decided by the Catholic Church by the end of the 4th century, especially at the councils of Carthage and Hippo, which happened, I think, in the about 391 and around there.
Anyways, so that's over now. It's over 1600 years ago that the canon of Scripture was defined.
Now, when Martin Luther came along, the gentleman behind the Protestant Reformation, he took some books out of the Bible, A, because they didn't really always agree with his theology.
In my opinion, it's not the best reason to take books out of the Bible. But B, he wanted to avoid looking to Catholic authority. And so he was going to what some Jews had espoused as the inspired parts of the Old Testament. So therefore, because not all Jews held that Tobit or Judith or Wisdom or Sirach or Baruch or First and Second Maccabees were definitely inspired by God, he removed them because he trusted the Jews more than Christians on what counts as inspired word of God.
Okay, but it's like kind of. It's just worth noting that that's already after over a thousand years after Christians were all agreed upon what was inspired by God. And those. Those councils, again, were like, presided over by bishops. And there was deep calling out on the Holy Spirit and serious evidence and research.
So I think that to have a priest who leaves the Catholic Church and then says, let's take these books out is not the most reliable reason to take those books out.
[00:07:53] Speaker A: Okay. One of the things that prompted me to ask this was a guy that I was following on the Grahams, and he had said that St Raphael wasn't even mentioned in the Bible. And so I had a little bit of a panic attack, having come from St. Raphael's parish in Burlington, thinking, okay, what have I been set up here? I've been led astray that it's not a real saint. It's not a real saint.
What's going on here? And so a Little bit of a deep dive. And St. Raphael's referenced in the Book of Tobit, which would have been removed, as you said, from the Bible. So the guy on the grams is then referring to.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: He's got the Bible light version.
[00:08:35] Speaker A: Bible minus. Okay. Yeah.
[00:08:37] Speaker B: Not the full Bible. He's missing out.
[00:08:40] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Quite significantly. Okay. So it's also then a cautionary tale about being mindful about what Christian content we're consuming online. That's right, because that, that when he said that, that threw up great alarm bells. I thought, okay, I can't. I can't continue to follow this in good conscience.
[00:08:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it's true. You have to be discerning. And sometimes there are great Christians that aren't Catholic that do share some good things, but better to find the best sources of Catholic stuff and then you don't have to kind of sift through as much. But it's not bad if you want to listen to other Christians, as long as, you know, to discern whether their content is really always aligned with our faith.
[00:09:14] Speaker A: Okay. And if they're wondering, they can always ask us.
We can do a little bit of a deep dive and help find out for them.
Okay. I have an unrelated supplementary question because it's rosary month, and so I have in my hands this beautiful rosary.
Nice, beautiful little delicate rosary that you have previously blessed.
[00:09:34] Speaker B: Exciting.
[00:09:34] Speaker A: It's got some lovely colorations. Some nice beads in there.
[00:09:39] Speaker B: Yeah, that's great. Okay, what's the question?
How much am I paying for it?
[00:09:43] Speaker A: No, this Bible or this Bible. This rosary.
Bible on beads, but full Bible on the beads. Nothing's been removed from this one.
[00:09:54] Speaker B: It's the Catholic Bible on beats.
[00:09:59] Speaker A: Moisture was introduced into its environment and so it rested.
[00:10:02] Speaker B: Ah, yes. It rusted and it happens. So I thought too much holy water.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: Too much holy water.
[00:10:09] Speaker B: Shoot. Sorry.
[00:10:11] Speaker A: Never can. You can't have too much holy water. That's not even possible.
[00:10:14] Speaker B: Forgot to dry it.
[00:10:15] Speaker A: So we did clean it. I didn't clean it. Rain. Cleaned it by removing the rust. And so I'm thinking. Okay, was that an appropriate gesture or should we have.
[00:10:24] Speaker B: Good question.
[00:10:25] Speaker A: And then brought it for disposal?
[00:10:27] Speaker B: Like buried the rest? Yeah, it's a good question.
My personal opinion is that you did nothing wrong by restoring it.
[00:10:34] Speaker A: Okay. Oh, restoring. Okay.
[00:10:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that's the way I would see it. Although it's a very praiseworthy sensitivity to a holy object to be sure about your know, did we do it rightly? That's a good question. It's a good sign.
[00:10:45] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:10:46] Speaker B: It's pretty Good folks. I approve. All right.
[00:10:49] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:10:50] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:10:50] Speaker A: Relieved.
[00:10:52] Speaker B: All right, what else we got?
[00:10:54] Speaker A: What else we got? We have our resource of the week. Whoa.
[00:10:57] Speaker B: Resource.
[00:10:57] Speaker A: Resource. Resource. Resource. Haven't had that called out in a while.
[00:11:00] Speaker B: Resource. Resource.
[00:11:01] Speaker A: The Sunday Missile. Sort of a great little companion to our.
[00:11:04] Speaker B: Looks like you've been using it well.
[00:11:05] Speaker A: Oh, I got my key spots tagged here.
[00:11:08] Speaker B: Does that say JD on the side?
[00:11:10] Speaker A: It does say JD on the side.
[00:11:11] Speaker B: That's pretty cool.
[00:11:11] Speaker A: Yeah. In case somebody steals it. They know who they got it from.
[00:11:14] Speaker B: Everyone knows it's yours.
[00:11:15] Speaker A: Exactly.
And just some of the fascinating parts in here that I don't know, that everyone really has flipped through in detail. If they don't have their own, they may not have time during Mass because they're so enraptured by what's happening and what's going on and kind of stuck in the day. But there's a whole section on prayer and so many of the common prayers, the traditional prayers, of course, some maybe less common, that aren't Maybe. Maybe aren't known automatically. The Angelus, St. Michael's prayers in there as well.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: Praises, oh, acts of faith, hope and love about prayer. Oh, it's a nice little quote there.
Traditional prayers, all Pope's intentions.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: Yeah. And there's a section that I. I use every week that has all the prayers with the Eucharist.
Kind of gives a little bit of a focus if you're not sure what to be thinking or praying on. It'll give a. It gives a number of prayers that we can.
[00:12:12] Speaker B: Nice. Yeah. Way of the Cross. Anima Christie. After spiritual communion. Prayer for our earth, prayer for reverence for life, prayer for vocations, Pray for peace in the world. Inspiration from the saints. Got some quotes from the saints here. Good content in here. Yeah.
[00:12:27] Speaker A: In this year, especially. All tabbed the way it is.
I know in previous years, FG on.
[00:12:36] Speaker B: The side of it.
[00:12:38] Speaker A: Father G. Reg.
[00:12:39] Speaker B: That's right. It's not a J.D. it's just a FG.
[00:12:43] Speaker A: I know in previous years, they've done a little bit of an explanation of the gospel that has been highlighted for that for that year as well. And not in this one, but it's there as well. They also have some tips about how to use.
[00:12:58] Speaker B: How to use the missile. How's the use of missile itself on the inside front cover?
[00:13:01] Speaker A: Inside front cover. There we go.
[00:13:02] Speaker B: How to use this missile.
[00:13:04] Speaker A: One of the keys. They talk about using it to prepare for Mass and pray before with the readings. Yep.
Sometimes, if you have to be away from your parish you can't lug your giant book with you. So you could maybe use this as a. In a.
For a little bit of prep work.
And. And it does talk. It says, when should we not use the missiles and missilettes? Certainly not during the proclamation of God's word, when God is speaking to us through the ministry of the lectors.
[00:13:31] Speaker B: So it says, like, hold up, don't be looking at this. If you can hear the reader.
[00:13:35] Speaker A: Yes, fascinating.
[00:13:36] Speaker B: Although there's pros and cons to that. I think practically speaking, I. Sometimes some people have challenge hearing, so they gotta fill in the gaps with the reading. Yeah, it's like an accessibility thing.
[00:13:46] Speaker A: Sometimes I find during the prayers, I find them a little bit harder to hear. So it's.
[00:13:52] Speaker B: I think if it's helping you pray, if it's helping you to participate, I think that's the key thing. As long as it's helping you participate, that's fine, in my opinion.
[00:14:01] Speaker A: Okay. All right.
[00:14:02] Speaker B: I think that if you don't need it and you just hold it and it's not helping you, then. Yeah, then you don't need to be holding it.
[00:14:07] Speaker A: But there's so much valuable content in there beyond the. The weekly masses and.
[00:14:12] Speaker B: Yeah, so. And they're all over the pews in the little.
Little pockets there.
[00:14:17] Speaker A: Pocket holders.
All right. The Kleenex collector.
[00:14:21] Speaker B: Hopefully not. All right.
[00:14:24] Speaker A: Should we get to our special guest today?
[00:14:27] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, we have a special guest.
[00:14:28] Speaker A: Special guest today.
[00:14:29] Speaker B: Wow. Okay. I invite the special guest to shimmy his chair over this way.
Behold. The special guest is seminarian Peter Hofbauer. Do you want to say just a short, short, short sharing about yourself?
[00:14:49] Speaker A: Sure. Well, I entered seminary not long ago and this is my first placement as a seminarian. I am doing a pre year before I formally do seminary, so an extra year of discernment. And I like hanging out with Father Greg.
[00:15:07] Speaker B: Awesome. That was great.
Thank you so much, Peter. We're really happy to have seminary and Peter with us and these new microphone things, by the way.
Whoa. Anyways, I'll put it back now.
All right. Back to regular mic.
[00:15:20] Speaker A: Back to regular mic. Okay, Peter, welcome and looking forward to working with you in our time together.
It's going to be awesome, Father. There is so much happening in our community. Our parishioners can, of course, check out the bulletin. Besides having Peter with us, what are some of the things that you would like to highlight that are coming up?
[00:15:39] Speaker B: Well, our RCA class that meets on Tuesday nights is just growing over time, which is so cool. Love, love that our Saint Vincent de Paul Society. For anyone who wants to know this, if there's anyone who is in need of a helping hand in our parish bounds, we really want you to reach out to our St. Vincent de Paul Society. They're there to help.
Also, this upcoming Saturday night we have the last two episodes of the Chosen from Season five. We're going to watch those back to back. I haven't seen them yet, so that's cool. We also have our core men's group on Saturday morning. Starts at 7:30.
So it's great. At least it includes free coffee, free donuts and trust me, it's. It's a lot of fun. Family catechism program this upcoming Saturday or Sunday that is. And we've got coffee Sunday with the cwl. And anyways, there's lots more stuff. Check out the bulletin. We're a happening parish with lots.
[00:16:31] Speaker A: We are a happening parish. There is so much happening here and none of these activities really happen in isolation or on their own. There are so many people doing great work to make all these activities and events take place and to chair the committees and to help provide leadership. Who would you like to recognize in the parish this week?
[00:16:49] Speaker B: Well, someone who's very far away from us right now but has really contributed a lot to us right now, which is Seminarian Peter. I'd like to give him a shout out. We thank Simon Peter for his yes to discerning a call to the priesthood and being with us. We're excited to have him here probably until August of 2026. And he already has not only helped in various ways, but among others he likes to cook, which is a nice thing. So great to have him around for that. Saves Father Greg a little bit of time, gives him a little bit more energy.
So we're blessed to have Seminarian Peter here.
[00:17:25] Speaker A: Excellent.
Well, that is just about all the time we have for today.
Thank you, Father. Shall we close with a prayer?
[00:17:33] Speaker B: We shall close with a prayer. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. God, we thank you for your love for us and all that you're doing in our parish, in our lives, in our personal relationship with you. Pour out your blessings upon each one of us and help us to feel that anointing of the Holy Spirit that draws us ever closer to you. So we shine your light and draw others into your love. We ask this in Jesus name. Amen. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
[00:18:00] Speaker A: Thank you for that, Father.
I forgot to mention the Blue Jays jersey.
[00:18:04] Speaker B: We were praying hard last night.
[00:18:06] Speaker A: Praying hard last night. I appreciate your prayers. I know not a big sports guy, but you did throw in some extra prayers for him last night.
[00:18:12] Speaker B: And I'm not against sports. I just.
[00:18:14] Speaker A: No, no, just. Just not a big sport.
[00:18:15] Speaker B: It's hard for me to keep up sometimes with all the other things in the parish, so.
[00:18:19] Speaker A: That's right.
[00:18:19] Speaker B: But I. Obviously, we all know that the Blue Jays are now going to the World Series, which is the first time in how many years?
[00:18:24] Speaker A: 32.
[00:18:25] Speaker B: 32 years. That's almost how old I am.
Wow.
[00:18:28] Speaker A: Oh, good golly gee whiz.
All right, well, thank you for your prayers. Thank you for your insights, Father. And if this podcast earns me any grace points, I'll be sure to mention you at the pearly gates.
[00:18:38] Speaker B: Please do.
[00:18:39] Speaker A: All right.
Thanks also to our fans and friends and odds and ends for joining us this week through the Immaculate Heart of Mary social media channels, The Apple podcasts, the Spotify, and the YouTubes.
If you like our show, subscribe and tell your friends. And if you don't like our show, tell your friends anyway and let them discern for themselves.
[00:18:56] Speaker B: Yeah, they might have better judgment than you.
[00:18:59] Speaker A: Wow. Until next time, keep the faith, say your prayers, and hey, don't forget to tip your priest with a smile and Hail Mary. Have a great week, everyone. We are Father Greg and JD and Peter, leaving you smarter, happier, and more blessed than you were yesterday.
[00:19:13] Speaker B: Are you sure they're smarter now?
[00:19:14] Speaker A: I think so.
[00:19:15] Speaker B: I hope so.
